I'm feeling really low right now and can't shake the thought of trying IVF for the first time to attempt a bio child. Below is a meta-analysis of 17 (relatively small) studies that, taken together, show the strategies have nearly identical pregnancy rates. I'm back from my appt and we are going with EPP. :-/. Estrogen priming through luteal phase and stimulation phase improved ovarian responsiveness and this may lead to an increase in pregnancy rate in poor responders with failed cycle. I have AMH of 0.1 or something like that. Below you can see that when investigators gave poor responders 450 IUs or 150 IUs per day, the groups had nearly identical success rates. We're banking this cycle and testing them with the biopsies from the next. I'm 35 and going through my first IVF cycle. Estrogen priming refers to supplementing women with extra estrogen (estradiol) during the luteal phase - that's the last two weeks - of the prior menstrual cycle before beginning ovarian hyper-stimulation for IVF. Natural cycle is no meds to stim so u get 1 egg at best. Implantation Calendar: What is Happening During the Two Week Wait. I just had a consultation with an RE he recommended a "estrogen priming micro-flare lupron" protocol. But not all patients respond equally to ovarian stimulation using these hormones. I did a phone consult with Sher and he suggested the conversion protocol to me as well. I was on bcps and Lupron the first ivf. Follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and luteinizing hormone (LH) are used to stimulate the ovaries to recruit and develop more than one follicle. I would ask your doctor, but I guess you just do nothing while preparing for the cycle. We are going to bump up my gonal f too. As we discussed there are drugs that stimulate follicles to grow, suppress the follicles ability to release their eggs, and then help catalyze the follicles to mature their eggs so they can be retrieved. Estrogen priming is a protocol used during in vitro fertilization (IVF) to facilitate a more gradual and coordinated growth of follicles in the ovary in women with diminished ovarian reserve (DOR). Collection was yesterday and they retrieved 9 eggs. I am about to start my 4th IVF cycle. I am 38. In the case of the fresh transfers, you can clearly see a similar effect to what investigators found above: success rates drop with more drug. Similarly, many doctors believe low dose approaches work equally well as high dose approaches on women who are likely to be hyper responders. These are women who have a high AMH or had a high number of eggs retrieved in a previous cycle. SG usually sticks to their protocol for the first round, then if it fails, they'll start customizing. Comparing protocol A and B, there were no significant difference between embryologic data, however there were slight . Froze 3. It helps your lining and encourages your eggs to all grow at the same rate. After 2 years, tons of tests and 5 IVF cycles, it still feels unreal.Estrogen Priming protocol does not have birth control pills. IVF #5 was EPP and HGH. Estrogen Priming Protocol: In some women who respond poorly to the short protocol (e.g., women diagnosed with Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)), this protocol may enhance ovarian response, perhaps by synchronizing more follicles for recruitment and retrieval. FertilitySmarts is a part of Janalta Interactive. It is used for low/poor responders -- often women with high FSH and/or over 35 years of age. This was my worst cycle ever only yielding 2 retrieved follicles that did not fertilize. Dr Sher says "oestrogen priming of FSH receptors has been reported to slow premature follicular development and to promote granulosa cell FSH receptor induction". Right ovary has 2-4 follies<12mm. Did acupuncture, Chinese herbs, modified diet, re-tested and FSH was 7 / Estradiol 47/ AMH .4 My second included BCP before stimulating and I didnt stimulate well. Or are there different levels of this? A third option, the Flare protocol is used less often and only in very specific patient types (often poor responders). Thus, the negative impact of taking a lot of gonadotropin may be minimized in a frozen transfer. . Similarly, when an investigator named Revelli decided to swap out a few days of gonadotropin for clomid in this poor responder population in Italy (and thereafter resumed gonadotropin at low levels), he saw similar rates of success to more conventional levels of gonadotropin use. Lets start with how much gonadotropin to take. Slightly higher doses of Follistim and Menopur to try to get a few more eggs. Now this is a guesstimated number. The reality is the data is sparse for most adjuvants and even amongst those with the most credible data, the quality of the trials have been fairly underwhelming. An analysis that combined six extremely small studies (that in aggregate only included about 160 patients) show gains in live birth rates, as you can see below. Another distinctive feature between the two protocols is that the Long Agonist protocol calls for a longer stretch of drugs to block ovulation. Thanks so much! Interesting that they are only putting you on it for 7 days.. How it works: It's a two cycle process. Ultimately, for only a handful of patient types has one protocol shown itself to be superior to the others and we profile those below. Was wonderin, I just finished my 3rd failed IVF cycle using EPP. Thanks so much in advance! View Full Term. There are several methods of pre-treatment that involves using either a combined oral contraceptive pill, progestogen or estrogen. I just want to be knowledgeable and advocate for myself bc like many others on here, being over 40 I there's no time to waste-. We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. This protocol is used almost exclusively in women whove had a poor response in a previous cycle or who have evidence of diminished ovarian reserve (AMH less than 0.5 or an AFC less than 5). Patients using EPP exhibited similar clinical PRs (21.5% vs. 21.4%) and live birth rates (15.0% vs. 15.3%) per started cycle. Are you sure you want to block this member? Has anyone else had this, Hi peeps. I cannot say if it will be a success yet, as I am currently doing the EPP protocol. Was wondering since your AMH was good and FSH, why did they recommend the Estrogen priming protocol for you? I went to a UK FSH friendly (thank you joy for the recommendation) clinic for a consultation. Advertising Policy - Search FSH 7.7 ( done 1 year ago ) First round , on bcp for 2.5 weeks. It is used on lowish amh patients and those who respond poorly to drugs which affect their lining. I am planning on doing 2-3 cycles with banking and then CCS testing due to previous miscarriages. Cost: $1,000. They monitor the follicle size and u do the trigger still so the know when to retrieve. IVF #1, we did Follistim, Menopur, Cetrotide. However, the data doesnt bare that out. Good luck! I started epp with cetrotide x 3 days. You may wonder how thats possible. Another gardener is pla. - Apply first estrogen patch. Froze 3. I would be doing a low stim protocol with estrogen priming. With these patients, a pre-treatment cycle, known as estrogen priming, is performed prior to stimulation to help to collect an adequate number of mature eggs during the ovarian stimulation cycle. For many gardeners, it starts with tomatoes. Worked for me! You currently have javascript disabled. This time she is switching me to EPP w/ 100 Follistim/150 Menopur. Gonal f 225, menopur 75. you are not supposed to TTC on the cycle you will be doing the EPP because of the ganirelix. BFP October 22!!!! Also, your stims are actually a lot higher than most REs will do for DOR. 13 days stim. Estrogen Priming Protocol- EPP Experiences - Infertility Inspire Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility at 40+ Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility Support Community in Partnership with RESOLVE Join Inspire Create a Post Estrogen Priming Protocol- EPP Experiences drgolfermd Aug 14, 2015 4:53 AM Dear All: I tried it and it seemed to help with even follicle growth but so some reason I had less eggs in the follicles than prior cycle when I was on bcp first? So I think I was on estrogen for about a couple weeks then started stimming (antagonist protocol). Learn more about. They are generally used for suppression in Long Lupron Protocols. Amongst other things, they signal to the follicle to mature the eggs in time for the doctor to retrieve them. I'm not sure what your stats are, but Check seems to have had some good success with women over 40 who have high FSH, so I'd say go with him. I understand the idea for the patch is to help time the growth of follicles vs. increase the number? my RE is going back to the drawing board for my final IVF. Then I started stims on a Friday. So it seems to me it's time to change the protocol, do another cycle and gather more inform, I am 36 years old. Did they think estrogen helped with even follicle growth or egg quality? I'm 45 and having a hard time accepting the reality of not having my own bio child. How did it go with the EPP? The dose of gonadotropin is typically measured in International Units Per Day and ranges from 0 - 900 with most IVF patients receiving 250 - 450 IUs per day. I am curious what anyone's experience has been with EPP. - Baseline u/s and b/w. Any success stories for low responders of Estrogen Priming cycle? Inhibin is an often overlooked hormone which suppresses (or inhibitits) the release of FSH from your brain during the last week of the cycle (FSH is the chief hormone responsible for making your eggs "grow"). Patients undergoing a MFP required more injections (40 vs. 26) than an EPP and spent an average of $4,375.00 compared to EPP patients who spent $5,485.00. I did estrogen and testosterone priming on my second ivf because I was oversuppressed during my first cycle. 2nd IVF/ICSI age 42 : Menopur 425; 2 eggs; 2 fertislised; transfer day 5; BFN ET oct 2nd - 2 embryos transferred One well regarded study determined that amongst most IVF patients, those taking over 150 IUs per day of gonadotropin had higher rates of success than those who took less. During my IVF cycle (still in the middle of it), Dr. K's 21 day estrogen priming protocol with 300 iu menopur seemed to have done the trick with 29 follicles (19 of which were bigger). Im on this for 21 days starting on cycle day 1. For IVF #1 I did BCP followed by 150 follistim/150 menopur and I ended up with 31 eggs but the quality wasn't great. So I guess Im asking, do you all think I should do a EPP antogonist? By clicking sign up, you agree to receive emails from FertilitySmarts and agree to our Terms of Use & Privacy Policy. IVF#1 with ICSI spring 2006 - 3 eggs retrieved, one transferred - BFN I have AMH of 0.1 or something like that. Estrogen priming is a protocol used during in vitro fertilization (IVF) to facilitate a more gradual and coordinated growth of follicles in the ovary in women with diminished ovarian reserve (DOR). Comparing the good cycle to the other 3, I see why. I asked for iv antibiotics instead of the zpack because I've never taken it before and was worried about how I'd feel from it. i read everywhere it's for "poor responders". It will workjust have faith! Estrogen priming also allows the patient and clinicians to schedule the ovarian stimulation cycle and the timing of egg retrieval. Often two other types of drugs are needed to accompany gonadotropin: those that block eggs from maturing and being ovulated before they can be retrieved, and those that help trigger the eggs to mature so they can be retrieved. I was not informed of this ahead of timeand was pretty upset that that they threw away something that might have had a chance. On CD2 I started 300 Gonal F and 150 Menopur. I felt icky too the first day of starting estrace but I think it's also because they put me on a zpac to kill any infections and that made me sick my fingers are crossed that your period doesn't come and you can start cycling. Just devastated with my results today so just want to cry it out and then I will respond to you. I used two patches a dayandchanged the patches every third day. Yes, I did antagonist for IVF 1, 2 and 3. Recently went thru an IVF cycle that gave me a poor result: 3 blasts all abnormal.RE suggested BCP for 21 days followed by lupron. I mean, you could try to get pregnant naturally, since as far as I know taking estrogen priming (particularly Estrace medication) should not harm your fetus if you were to become pregnant. But I will be asking the best hardcore questions I can come up with about EPP. No BCP - started my period, did cycle day 2 testing FSH was good (I had high a FSH of 15 so EPP helped that) then started meds. I have had 4 failed ivf cycles on the short antagonist protocol which all failed, 3 out of the 4 cycles I had 1 average embryo which resulted in chemical pregnancies and 1 cycle I had nothing to. Yes, we did the same thing. Editorial Review Policy. It's not the same for everyone over 40. Has anyone with failed IVF stim tried mini/micro IVF? I then switched clinics. I asked my local RE about it, but she wasn't familiar enough with it to try. He usually gives the BCP before overlapping with lupron as a way to lower FSH and LH. I was on BCP for 20 years (have been off for several now) and it took me a long time to normalize after coming off them. IVF #2, we did estrogen priming, Follistim, Menopur, Tev Tropin (human growth hormone), Cetrotide. Good luck! Cetrotide was added CD9. You still may have a BFP, so let's wait to see before we say it didn't work!! FET April 2009 - cancelled, embryos did not survive thaw Just curious to see if any out there have had any luck getting pregnant at age 43+ and produced a child through IVF. They said that they look at FSH less now as they find it too unreliable. I'm starting with this IUI and then will see how I respond and move forward from there. Time is of the essence and whatever information we have, we are happy to share to help you! Wow that did make a huge difference for you! This drug prompts the brain to release LH, the signal for ovulation, and is effective in helping to avoid OHSS. On the other hand, if too much gonadotropin is taken, a woman is at higher risk of hyperstimulation, known as Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome or OHSS. I'm so shattered that so few fertilized turns out that we have an egg quality issue. Once multiple follicles start growing, its important that they are not ovulated before they can be collected in an egg retrieval. Really hope the next cycle goes well for you! I have been doing some research and reading and I was reading that for older patients, a different protocol where less meds are used is usually recommend. After my period started, my doctor kept me on the patches for five more days. Second, this study was only done in cycles using a fresh transfer. I am on my 4th now. How many follicles were you usually starting with? These drugs signal to the brain not to instigate ovulation. Waiting for that call is sooo stressful! After seven long years consumed by infertility I am finally moving forward, wishing my son was with me, but grateful for the two children I have here with me. This will be my first IVF round and I w, Hi All, If ok, then start stimulation The many repeat bloodworks & ultrasoundsLast stimulation shot + triggerRetrievalSo I started my process in the mid-September and my retrieval happened in early NovemberAlso, I was on MicroFlare protocol, so I am not sure what other medications you might be taking. I hope a tweak of the protocol will help or maybe it was just an off cycle for me. To bridge that gap, doctors prescribe drugs that woman take at the start of a cycle to instigate growth of ovarian follicles that contain eggs. My first aIVF cycle was cx'd , due to poor/slow response and was probably due to the Birth control pills and lupron. I think the stims usually last longer with EPP, but my quality was much better. I also did human growth on 2 cycles and didn't help a bit. What To Do When PGT-A & Grading Results Conflict? The company offers Elephant Gigantes seeds, as well as free seeds that come with recommended shelf life information included. I am praying this makes a huge difference. Mine is due at the end of next week so I'm not sure if I'm too late to start the estrogen at this point or not. After 5 days of estrogen priming Follitropin alpha (Gonal F, 600 IU/day, s.c.) is started. They said they would put me in the 21 day long protocol. I know this is old but was your period seriously delayed after estradiol patch? Outdoor sports and activities of all types. Again, gonadotropin is the injectable hormone that prompts a higher number of follicles, and thus eggs, to grow at any one time. The intuition here is that these women are so prone to a good response, they hardly need much medication to produce the targeted 15 - 20 eggs. That sounds nuts to me, but my doctor said that it is normal. Our usual regimen is similar to those proposed below: hysteroscopy, prolonged estrogen priming, Estring for local effects, baby aspirin, vaginal phosphodiesterease inhibitors, pentoxifylline, acupuncture, etc., with admittedly little data to support any of our treatment strategies. Male factor, probably DOR and I am a poor responder to IVF drugs Of course, during a regular cycle most women naturally produce only a single mature egg. Have done 3 IUI's - 2 w. clomid and 1 with Gonal - F. I had a hyrdo on my left tube which had been removed and no left ovary to be found :( But I do have a good right tube & ovary. Those 2 were my worst cycles. Hi there. This clinic is more generous with freezing, so they tested and froze a few other blasts as well, which the other clinic would have thrown out. first u/s Nov 2nd, one little bean!!! Best of luck. If you feel a message or content violates these standards and would like to request its removal please submit the following information and our moderating team will respond shortly. Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. Its effective, but expensive, and raises the risk of OHSS. Thus, for those most concerned with OHSS (like women with PCOS or high AFC or AMH), this can be an inferior option. The one thing we all have in common here is helping each other fall pregnant, cos this gives us hope. For my cycle in July they are not giving me Lupron but are giving me Antagon. Anyhow, do you know how what they wanted the priming to do? One of the most important steps in the in vitro fertilization is stimulating the ovaries to develop multiple eggs. As a result, its hard to correct for confounders like the fact that harder cases may (or in our minds, probably) had been given more drug and so the underlying condition, rather than the dose taken, contributed to the lower rates of success. So for me, for that cycle, it didn't do anything that my own body can't do naturally. As you can see below, success rates dropped. Twins & Multiples: Your Tentative Time Table. You currently have javascript disabled. My skin looked pretty good for those priming weeks. I hope your's goes lots better than mine! . I just had a consultation with an RE he recommended a "estrogen priming micro-flare lupron" protocol. Even though Estrogen priming has a vague guidline, many REs tweak it to suit each patient, situation, etc, Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: IVFCA Fertility Network 2013, This is not recommended for shared computers. Went to retrieval anyway, did ICSI, but it didn't fertilize. Thanks! Was one of my worst cycles. This clinic only biopsies hatching blasts. Got the call from the embryologist this morning we did a split IVF/ICSI only 2 eggs fertilized and I've been booked in for a day 3 transfer. With this you get results by day-3 and can transfer embryos at that time. I did a low stim ivf (225 menopur & 100 mg clomid) with human growth hormone which is what my fertilty clinic does for women over 40 and poor responders. I need to know if anyone has had a similar experience, but later got pregnant and where did you go. Hi. As you may recall in the Revelli and Yousef studies, 150 IUs per day of gonadotropin were used, which is well higher than most things marketed as mini-stimulation approaches, and any natural (no gonadotropin) approach. My clinic doesn't like it. 9 Over the next several days you will have ultrasound and blood tests periodically and given instructions on the dosage of FSH to take Usually first I think you both are at Cornell (were) with this estrogen priming protocol will you try again with them, and request not to do estrogen priming? I am anxious to see if my dr recommends it. By clicking sign up, you agree to receive emails from FertilitySmarts and agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. EPP is an aggressive form of an IVF Antagonist Protocol. I just had my first IVF and it was unsuccesful. I was on BCP for 15 years and when I went off them I never got my period. Confirmed. Here's what you need to know about the project. This is my first time posting and was hoping for some other stories like mine. Before starting the pills, we need to wait until you are in the correct stage of your menstrual cycle (the luteal phase). Good luck! TBD how many fertilize, etc. Babies due June 26, 2011 Candice maybe11 129 Dec 08, 2009 #3 Hi, When The Data Favors Freezing All Embryos, Issues Associated With Twin or Triplet Pregnancies. However, the study has two major shortcomings and for that reason most experts arent ready to concede that rates of gonadotropin over 300 IUs per day is harmful. Have questions about navigating your Inspire support community or need assistance from one of our Inspire Moderators? The #1 app for tracking pregnancy and baby growth. This drugs known as the trigger shot. This typically happens with conventional insemination where the egg and the sperm are placed in the same culture environment for fertilization You can see my sig. Baby boy born May 2, 2013, Full details are now in my profile "About Me" page. Any info welcomed!! it's 1 week since last patch. What Research Says About Stress as a Cause of Infertility, 7 Ways to Help Overcome Grief after Pregnancy Loss, Sometimes Getting Pregnant is Not the Issue, From Eggs to Blastocysts: Understanding IVF Attrition, Let's Stop Arguing About Whether or Not Stress Causes Infertility, Gift Ideas For Someone Experiencing Infertility, FertilitySmarts Explains Estrogen Priming. Some people prefer the term Diminished Ovarian Reserve or Low Egg Reserve for patients who meet this criteria, as the ovarian response to medications for this group is not always necessarily poor, but rather is simply expected to be lower at their given baseline. Confirms hormone levels are baseline and gets antral follicle count as a basis for cycle prognosis. So it's a low dose of Lupron, but not necessarily low doses of stims overall. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. They want to try the Estrogen Priming protocol with estrace and prometrium for almost 4 weeks before the stim cycle. Estrogen priming is usually matched with an antagonist to prevent ovulation. Starting CD21, I was applying Vivelle patch every other day until my cycle started. New doctor recommended EPP to promote more even follicle growth. :) Keep us posted on your progress! think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. I credit the advice I received on this forum both from members and from experts, my infertility doctor and my push for the estrogen priming protocol for the family that I have today. My next cycle will also be EPP. I understand why they want to suppress ovulation but it just doesn't seem like a good idea in someone over 40? This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282. we did another one without BCPs and that also failed. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. That could be why they are decreasing your Follistim too. A fundamental question is whether protocols using a lower dose of gonadotropins do as well as those using a higher dose of gonadotropins. HiI'm new. Please enable JavaScript in your browser to load the challenge. Doing mild IVF - and wondering how that is going to work as the test today was that i only had one follicle visible - Any idea what to expect? An FSH drop-down protocol is used to It was day 3 of my period. We use cookies to improve your experience on this website and so that ads you see online can be tailored to your online browsing interests. Good luck & stay positive!! Is estrogen priming the same thing as using BCPs to suppress? Thanks for sharing your story. There are a number of drugs that can be tacked onto the beginning of a cycle that may increase the odds of success. Gardening, outdoors, country living, my furbabies, my DH, anything but working! Estrogen priming is pretty standard for over 40. A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. But I also realize I'm not a dr and should probably listen to their advice! TTC with DOR (Diminished Ovarian Reserve), the most helpful and trustworthy pregnancy and parenting information. Hey Michelle, I haven't forgotten about you. This drug works indirectly by prompting the brain to produce more gonadotropin to signal the ovaries to grow follicles -- so it's not directly stimulating the ovary. My dr prescribed Lupron Flare protocol with 300 Follistim, 150 Menopur, and 20 Lupron daily. I'd love to hear from women of "advanced (advanced !) Though I had 4 or 5 follicles to begin with, only ended up with one. And I think EPP is the standard at CCRM as well for DOR ladies. Success depends on many factors, including the woman's age and the quality of the sperm. Estrogen Priming protocol does not have birth control pills. (51.2% vs 25%; p = 0.047) were noted. Sign up now for your monthly dose of fertility info, experiences, and insight. Surprise spontaneous just 7 months postpartum while still breastfeeding!!! IVF#5 July 2010 - will be using estrogen priming 1st IVF/ICSI age 41 : Gonal F 300; 3 eggs; 2 fertilised; transfer day 5; BFN (Not so) Short summary - DH and I have been ttc since May 2015, two early m/c. Another set of investigators looked at a variation of the same question. I had success with EPP after failing with other protocols. The results are below and as you can see, success rates do seem to drop off after 300 IUs per day of gonadotropin. I then did 450 gonal-F and 150 menopur for 12 or 13 days, using ganirelix as well. Did one cycle of IVf with 450 of gonal F and then cetrotide and ovidrel. Thanks for well wishes. As you can see below, the odds of success (green line) continue to rise as more eggs are retrieved, until about 15 - 20 eggs, at which point the odds of success stop climbing and the risk of developing ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome, or OHSS, (pink line) skyrockets. Copyright 2023 Estrogen Priming Protocol - Infertility Inspire Finding a Resolution for Infertility IUI / IVF and high-tech procedures Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility Support Community in Partnership with RESOLVE Join Inspire Create a Post Estrogen Priming Protocol blossom34 (Inactive) Sep 23, 2010 5:34 AM I'm wondering if, 5/15 However, sometimes when sliced open, white rings can appear in the flesh, a disorder known as "internal white tissue." Most of the costs are for the ER visit, tests, and lab work from my night in the hospital and the weeks following. EPP results: 17 retrieved, 13 mature, 8 fertilized with PICSI, 2 hatching blasts on day 6 have been biopised. The hypothesis is that if we treat patients prior to starting their IVF cycle with estrogens ( the estrogen priming protocol) or androgens ( such as DHEA) , they will produce more eggs because more follicles will be recruited when we start the superovulation . Why so many days of esterace( 15-16 days before starting/adding promethium for 10 days) then the stim cycle, 3. The data supporting the use of growth hormone in poor responders leading up to gonadotropin use is more convincing. I only felt icky on the ganirelix. I did EPP, using a climara patch every other day starting day 8 after ovulation until period came. I hope you get to eat those words, I really do!!! I have been doing some research and reading and I was reading that for older patients, a different protocol where less meds are used is usually recommend. By and large there are two easy ways to think about protocols: how much gonadotropin (the drug that prompts follicles to grow) gets used, and what other drugs get used alongside the gonadotropin which is typically what defines a given protocol strategy. Within both, doctors can prescribe as much gonadotropin as theyd like. On the other hand, the Long Agonist protocol cant use Lupron as the trigger because it already deploys Lupron elsewhere. I am only 28 with normal amh/fsh levels so we were pretty shocked and upset when we only had a couple embryos on day 3 and then nothing to freeze. Pre-treatment is known to improve the response of the ovary to the stimulation cycle and also reduces the risk of ovarian cyst formation. I hav, My last ivf cycle was cancelled/converted to IUI due to being over suppressed by birth control pills. 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